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Review: Certified Ethical Hacker (312-50)

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After 5 weeks of studying, I finally completed my CEH exam yesterday. I passed with a 90%. I am not permitted to go into too much detail about exact questions, but I can offer my thoughts. I have broken down my review into 3 categories meant to help security professionals decide on the certifications to take. The total score, or the individual scores can be used as a guide for selecting the correct certification for your career path.

Rating:

  1. Technicality (4/5) – The course requires a bit of knowledge regarding the underlying functions of networks, etc. Being able to read code, understand hex dumps/packet captures, and such is a definite must for truly understanding the content. The exam and course is aimed at professionals fairly new to security. Considering that, the amount of technical knowledge gleaned was quite good. I wouldn’t necessarily say fire hose in intensity, (although for some it could easily be that way), but more like a garden-hose-on-full-blast. Most of this is relating to the amount of tools you learn. However, much of the technical knowledge was still quite theoretical, since it was in general more focused on identifying/recognizing attacks or tools, rather than hands-on usage of the such. I give it a 4 our of 5 in technicality in context of its intended audience, yet its lack in more hands-on usage of the tools.
  2. Managerial (2/5) - The CEH is definitely directed to those looking to do the more technical aspect of Penetration Testing and security. However, it still does teach some managerial skills. Mostly they are just short rants about NDAs, Get-out-of-jail-free cards, and staying within scope. There is some policy creation that is emphasized when talking about social-engineering, but only because they test it from that aspect. I give it a 2 because there is some important information gleaned, although they never truly test or prepare on the actual Management topic; it simply occurs as a byproduct of everything else.
  3. Prestige (3/5) – This is the controversy! It comes down to this: DoD 8570 vs TestKing. Yes, the Department of Defense directorate 8570 includes the CEH as one of its recognized certifications. This makes it quite valuable! I dont think I need to say much about it. Its nice because the exam is so cheap, while most of the other 8570 certifications (save the CompTIA ones) are quite costly. Therefore, the CEH is nice because it enables unfunded individuals the opportunity to get a well recognized certification. Just for that I would give it a 5… except for one thing…Test Prep Questions. I used some test prep questions for my final preparation of the test. If I had just taken 5 weeks to memorize all of the answers in those prep questions, i probably would have gotten the same score. Thats right, probably 70-80% of the actual test questions were verbatim to those within test prep questions. What does this mean? well it means that if you are legitimately prepared for the test, this will give you the leg up to guarantee you pass! If you prepared well you will blast through the questions pretty easily. However, this also means that any schmo off the street can memorize the answers and pass the test with flying colors. Unfortunately the only real defense EC-Council has against this is it’s approval process for those wanting to take the test (self-testers need a waiver to take the test w/o attending a course). Some people dont think this is such a big deal. I consider it a big deal since one day I might find an employer who discounts my CEH as being worthless due to a bad experience with some idiot who passed the CEH without learning a thing. For this reason alone I would have given a rating of 1, or 2, except for whole DoD 8570 thing.

total: (9/15)

The Exam:

The examination was pretty good. It is 150 questions, and you are given 4 hours. I completed mine in in 2 hours. The reason it took so long was the length of some of the questions. A majority of the questions are paragraphs long in description, and many have diagrams/dumps to look at.There were some easy questions, and some hard ones; just like every other certification. However, I was surprised that I was not asked questions on certain things. For instance, nmap, virus/backdoors, and ICMP codes/types were strongly emphasized within my prep-material, however I did not have a single question relating to either of them. The reason for this is most likely the dynamic nature of how they generate your exam question set, as well as the huge scope of the course. The course covers so much information that it would require a much lengthier exam to cover it all. There were also a  few control questions. Control questions are very difficult questions, sometimes beyond the scope of the exam, that are scattered throughout the exam. Some say that they are ungraded and used for statistical analysis; I believe they are there to slow you down ;) The test seemed to do well at addressing the different questions from the angle of the hacker, as well as the administrator/investigator. This makes it a little tricky, but forces you to have a good understanding of the content.

I have broken down my review into 3 categories meant to help security professionals decide on the certifications to take. The total score, or the individual scores can be used as a guide for selecting the correct certification for your career path.

Comparison:

In comparison to the Security+, I would have to say that I enjoyed the CEH more. I tend to be a more technically oriented, and really enjoyed learning the PenTesting methodology and tools. However, the Security+ offered a great deal of managerial and policy information. I would definitely  say that the Security+ was easier than the CEH , simply because there was relatively less technical know-how required for it. The Security+ did serve as a great foundation for the CEH and made passing the CEH much much easier. I would recommend you attain both. Some topics covered in depth in the Security+ and not in the CEH include: Encryption, Access Control models, and policy creation. Another cert on this same level is the mile2 CPTEngineer. The course is advertised as being comparable to the CEH, but more hands-on. I have not taken that course, so I cant say much on it. If anyone has some input, I would be happy to include it.

Conclusion:

Im glad I got the CEH. However, immediately  after completing the test I felt the need to attain the next level of knowledge. I feel a whole lot more knowledgeable because of the CEH, but I still feel miles away from the end goal. A good certification as a starter.

CEH Preparation

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I am scheduled to take the Certified Ethical Hacker certification exam (312-50) next week (wish me luck).

Overall I have enjoyed the self-study process. Here are a few pros/cons I have about the curriculum:

Pros:

  • Huge scope
  • Lots of specific examples and command descriptions.
  • Emphasizes the entire Pen Test process, not just the “popping a box” stuff.
  • Significant emphasis on policy.
  • A reasonable focus on underlying processes, not just ‘tutorials’.
  • Required me to improve my understanding of the TCP/IP (especially ICMP)

Cons:

  • Available curriculum can easily become dated. Tools you need to learn for the exam are probably useless by now.
  • Not sure exactly which tools are important to remember/study.
  • I was glad to be directed to the RFCs, but sometimes it was too much for little return.
  • Failed to discuss modern defenses that a Pen Tester would run into. (i.e. NAT)
  • Seemed stuck on buffer overflows and trojans/backdoors. Very little was put into newer attacks like XSS (none on XSRF), and SQL Injection.

In comparison to CompTIA’s Security+, I would say that the CEH is much more technical, hands down. Security+ emphasizes more on security theory, management, and policy; and not to forget, a TON of cryptography. CEH focuses much more on the actual testing. Some people might say that its pointless to get both. I would advise otherwise and encourage all those getting into the security field to achieve both certifications. With both you would be well prepared to follow either the management, or the technician track of the security field.

Overall I think the CEH certification is a good credential to have. It will build confidence in your skills as a Pen Tester, prepare you for the business aspect (opposed to just hacking), and make you more reputable to others (since it is now on DoD 8570). In no way do I think this certification would prepare you to “strike out on your own”. I feel like its a good Basic Training for those going into Pen Testing.

For those interested in pursuing the CEH, here was my Self Study Outline, and a few tips:

Study:

Week 1-4: Read through prep book, using Counter-Hack Reloaded as reference. I made about 400 note cards, and reviewed them everyday as I went. I spent about 1.5-2 hours a day reading, and was careful to make sure I did all recommended tasks.

Week 5: I spent an entire week reviewing my note cards, and memorizing everything I could.

Week 6: Do all the practice tests included with my study materials. Also used TestKing test bank, and whatever else I could get my hands on!

NOTE: I would like to mention that I have already been involved in security for some time before my CEH prep. I have the Security+, and have attended trainings at Black Hat. If you are brand new to the security world, I would recommend taking a significantly longer amount of time to prepare and understand the underlying technology.

Materials:

  1. ExamCram CEH Prep Guide (by Que)
  2. Counter-Hack Reloaded (by Ed Skoudis, the Grandmaster)
  3. Official EC-Council CEH Review Guide

I did use some other materials, although these were my primary ones. In a few days I will post a comparison of the materials and what I would advise.

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